Ray Optics: PYQ Walkthrough (8)

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Question

An object is placed 3030 cm in front of a convex lens of focal length 2020 cm. A concave mirror of focal length 1010 cm is placed 5050 cm behind the lens, with their principal axes coinciding. Find the position of the final image. This combo problem appeared in JEE Main 2023 and is a NEET 2024 favourite.

Solution — Step by Step

Using 1v1u=1f\dfrac{1}{v} - \dfrac{1}{u} = \dfrac{1}{f} with u=30u = -30 cm, f=+20f = +20 cm:

1v=120+130=3260=160\frac{1}{v} = \frac{1}{20} + \frac{1}{-30} = \frac{3 - 2}{60} = \frac{1}{60}

v=+60v = +60 cm. The image is 60 cm to the right of the lens — but the mirror is only 50 cm away, so this image forms 10 cm behind the mirror.

For the mirror, the object is 10 cm behind it (virtual object), so umirror=+10u_{\text{mirror}} = +10 cm using mirror sign convention (object on the same side as incident light is negative; here it’s behind the mirror, which is the positive side).

Wait — careful with sign convention. Mirror sign convention: distances measured from the pole, against the direction of incident light are positive. Light travels left-to-right, hits the mirror; the virtual object is to the right of the mirror (behind it), so u=+10u = +10 cm.

fmirror=10f_{\text{mirror}} = -10 cm (concave). Using 1v+1u=1f\dfrac{1}{v} + \dfrac{1}{u} = \dfrac{1}{f}:

1v=110110=210\frac{1}{v} = -\frac{1}{10} - \frac{1}{10} = -\frac{2}{10}

v=5v = -5 cm. The image is 5 cm in front of the mirror (on the lens side).

The mirror image is 5 cm in front of the mirror, so 505=4550 - 5 = 45 cm from the lens, on the right side. For the second pass through the lens, u=+45u = +45 cm (object on the side of outgoing light from the mirror, which becomes incident light for the lens going leftward).

Using lens formula again:

1v=120+145=9+4180=13180\frac{1}{v} = \frac{1}{20} + \frac{1}{45} = \frac{9 + 4}{180} = \frac{13}{180}

v13.85v \approx 13.85 cm to the left of the lens.

Final answer: Image forms about 13.85 cm on the left side of the lens (same side as the original object).

Why This Works

For combination problems, work sequentially: each optical element processes the previous image as its object. Sign conventions are the trickiest part — when light reverses direction (after a mirror), what was “right” becomes “incident from the right”.

The key insight: an image formed beyond the next element becomes a virtual object for that element. This is where most students freeze, and it’s exactly where examiners build difficulty.

Alternative Method

Some problems ask only for one specific quantity (like image size). In that case, just track magnifications: mtotal=m1×m2×m3m_{\text{total}} = m_1 \times m_2 \times m_3. For position, you must work through all three stages.

A killer mistake: students forget that the lens-to-mirror distance affects whether the lens image is a real or virtual object for the mirror. Always compare the image position against the mirror’s location.

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